Tomatolake
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Death to the Japanese, Pagan, Yorkshireman
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Post by Tomatolake on Sept 17, 2019 17:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by Windischer on Sept 18, 2019 13:53:40 GMT -5
Oi, thanks a lot for the heads up, I've been waiting for this! Will be nice to watch, hopefully.
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Post by kevinmeath on Sept 21, 2019 15:48:50 GMT -5
Saw this couple of days ago, thought it good -- as l do most of his reviews. Not that keen on a Bridge too Far as I think a great deal is left out especially regarding the British at Arnhem.
I am surprised he didn't comment more cuttingly regarding the operational plans being found in a British glider while in reality it was an American one. Why the change I wonder?
But worth a watch, both the film and review
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Post by Earl of Rochester on Sept 21, 2019 18:14:19 GMT -5
I'm still annoyed at the grenadier guards for their outrageous behaviour after the 101st river assault. Was anyone ever held to account over that? It's also a bit daft that orders have to go back to HQ before being verified, did they learn nothing from WW1?
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Post by kevinmeath on Sept 22, 2019 4:56:35 GMT -5
I'm still annoyed at the grenadier guards for their outrageous behaviour after the 101st river assault. Was anyone ever held to account over that? It's also a bit daft that orders have to go back to HQ before being verified, did they learn nothing from WW1? What the film doesn't show is it wasn't the whole of the Guards division that was through but just some armour, the Americans had not really cleared the way and British infantry were still fighting in the city. The Guards would have had to advance without infantry support along a raised road, almost suicide. |
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Post by Earl of Rochester on Sept 22, 2019 5:11:21 GMT -5
Couldn't the 101st have provided that infantry support? They had just undertaken a suicidal river crossing, the tanks should have gone in with the 101st as support imo.
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Post by diddyriddick on Sept 26, 2019 13:45:36 GMT -5
Couldn't the 101st have provided that infantry support? They had just undertaken a suicidal river crossing, the tanks should have gone in with the 101st as support imo. Coordinating that kind of combined arms across such completely alien chains of command wouldn't have been that easy. Would have to have been initiated at the Corps level at least and more likely by even higher command-Bradley or Monty probably. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 7:38:04 GMT -5
Couldn't the 101st have provided that infantry support? They had just undertaken a suicidal river crossing, the tanks should have gone in with the 101st as support imo. The German 88s, from fixed dug in positions, would have made mincemeat of the tanks while their infantry support units would have taken care of the 101st Earl. Without proper air support to take them out it would have been a massacre. It was a bold plan, but without the right tools and proper planning it was always doomed to failure. No one can doubt the courage of the allies though. |
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Post by Windischer on Sept 27, 2019 9:33:30 GMT -5
I liked the review and I like the movie a lot too. To adress the question why the plans in the film were found in a British glider on an American one. Might be the same reason why in Master and Commander the protagonists fight a French ship rather than an American one. Perhaps they didn't want to give the Americans too much guilt as it could allienate the American audience.
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Post by Earl of Rochester on Sept 28, 2019 8:40:16 GMT -5
It still feels like we let our allies down badly. What was facing the 101st? I don't see why they shouldn't have been able to take the 88s. They did on D-day.
I always liked Lt Gen Brian Horrocks, he was an old school gent. You can see a great video with him here apparently he did quite a few videos about the war on the BBC but they're hard to get hold of.
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